I take baby steps, stumbling, falling backward as often as making progress forward. But like a toddler, I’m determined to get better at this challenging racism thing. It takes practice, allies — and curiosity. What can we learn by making an explicit choice to be curious about race and racism? A lot, friends. A lot.

I am deeply grateful to Monique Brown and her colleagues at Challenging Racism for helping me and so many others along this important journey.

Listen to Choose to Be Curious #26: Challenging Racism Part 2, with Monique Brown

Listen to the first installment of this two part conversation here.

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